Date: December 9th 2011
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Forum
Jo’s
comments are in blue.
Notes from the Office
Bev
and John have returned from the map conference in Thailand and are already
saving for their next trip. John has come back to work full of good ideas so
stay tuned for those over the next few months.
Harvest
is in full swing around here and with rain forecast for the weekend many farmers
are working very long hours. Grain harvesting is dictated by the weather and
everything must be dry so the evening thunderstorms we have been having, while
spectacular are not appreciated by everyone. If there is not much humidity it is
not uncommon to see headers still working at midnight.
Bev
also wins the prize for the first good snake story of the summer. She went to
step out of her back door the other day and almost stood on a very large and
very long brown snake. Said snake slithered off and is now believed to be
enjoying the relative coolness and shade of their garage/shed. She wasn’t
mollified by our suggestion that snake poo deters mice!
Caravan
weights
This
was due to the weight problems already explained, but often compounded by van
owners adding all sorts of extra equipment. I've seen picks, mattocks and
crowbars under beds for a month in the gem fields, plus extra water tanks,
batteries, etc etc.
Many
van owners do not realise LT (Light truck) tyres are designed to run from
40-65psi, and often due to the above need to be run on bitumen at highway speeds
near 60psi cold. Many van owners do not realise van suspensions particularly the
rubber Alko type are designed to run at a specific load, and rapid deterioration
occurs if overloaded. This overloading, or sometimes unbalanced loading can
cause serious stability problems in a sudden crosswind, cornering, braking or
insufficient braking. All of this as said could have the van illegal, thus
immediate insurance disqualification.
Any
van owner who is unsure should put their van over a weighbridge and for more
detailed information I also suggest Google Collyn Rivers.
Peter is in
South Australia. I have asked him to provide more details.
Satphones
Thank
you for your email. Unfortunately you are unable to use the IsatPhone Pro to
dial emergency 000 or 1300 & 1800 numbers. We have compiled a list of
emergency contacts and I have attached it to this email for your reference. We
do recommend that you store these numbers on the IsatPhone Pro for easy access
when needed. We have relayed this issue back to Inmarsat and they are working on
trying to get the 000 issue rectified, but this could take some time as there
isn’t a definite date when it will be completed. Helen Product Manager.
Outback hospitality
I
have been following the recent posts on outback hospitality and after 6 weeks in
outback QLD & NSW we came across none of it. Two things I would like to
mention are:
We
stayed in Windorah Council Park, nice park & shower block $5/night unpowered
for 2 people. Showers only, gold coin donation to RFDS. While we were there a
couple and 3 kids/teenagers came in showered and headed off again. No donation.
While
talking to the nice lady that came later to collect our fee we mentioned this in
passing, replied "that happens quite a lot" If anybody has reason to
be standoffish with tourists surely this type of action would go a long way to
peeve some people. Someone has to clean the shower and then find no coins in the
box. (Keep these types of things in mind if you do find someone unwilling to
talk) All tourists do not act like we nice ones do!
Next
point, we stayed at Eromanga park (fairly basic and "worker" style
showers, but they were clean and water was hot) Same price as above and in the
first hour no less than 3 people from the business came over at different times
and invited us to a free BBQ. So we went. It consisted of sausages, spare ribs,
bacon, scalloped potato and fresh salad. Not a bad outcome for $2.50 ea. This I
consider very friendly outback hospitality.
The
only down side was a dull drone all night from the refinery 300m away. Colin
& Kathy
Barmah
We were there a couple of weeks ago with 18 other kayakers. We were a bit dismayed at the toilet situation when we arrived but understood that you cannot over rule mother nature and her recent floods. We hadn’t been there long and hadn’t set up camp when a ranger came and we explained that we all had a fair amount of bush walking experience and we wouldn’t make a mess of the place. Soon after we went on an explore on our bikes and 1.4km from our camp towards the Visitor Centre there are three flushing toilets, M, F and a disabled. So an early morning car shuffle fixed most of the major toilet problems. We were much happier with this option as the ground around the camping area is not really suitable for disposing of your own waste. These are a good option until the composting toilets are installed. John
Birdsville Track Query
In
mid 2012 we (two vehicles) plan to include the Birdsville Track as part of our
travel itinerary. I have a copy of your most informative Map and am confident
that this will be of great assistance. However, would it be possible to further
enlighten our small group re below small concerns please? We drive a 3 litre,
Nissan Patrol, 2004 and our R.V. is a 13 foot "Supreme" Getaway
Pop-top. Peter
1.Does
the track conditions present any major concerns?
2.
Suggestions for tyre pressure for towing vehicle and R.V.
3.Any
clues for stone protection for R.V.?
4.
Suggested travel speed.
5.
Wuold it be advisable to strengthen suspension of towing vehicle?
6.
Would you recommend a side trip to Kalamurina? Why? Can you camp there?
7.
What are the main track/side track highlights we should be looking for along the
way to Birdsville?
Can anyone
help Peter?
SkyTrek
I’ve just got word that the famous SkyTrek self drive track in the Flinders Ranges is closed and may never re-open! Don't know if you have ever drove it, but it is, amongst all the tracks you can do in the Flinders (and there are a heap) this is the most iconic one. It is extremely popular and a real tourist attraction of the Flinders. They launched the Toyota FJ out there just recently, although I'm not sure if they went to the Mt Carnarvon.
It's a long convoluted story but essentially the country that contains Mt Carnarvon (the highest vehicle access point in the ranges) was sold to the yellow-footed rock wallaby preservation association (YFRWPA) by Willow Springs about 10 years ago. It seemed to be a good idea at the time - the mountain country is pretty unproductive grazing country, there was a drought going on and the owner wanted to see the wallabies protected. It was done on a friendly hand shake sort of thing over a beer or two.
Now
the YFRWPA is an offshoot of the Sporting Shooters (SSAA) who have been doing
culls on goats and cats in the ranges for years - helping protect the wallabies
in the process.
But
now it's all to do with money, the lawyers have got involved and the YFRWPA want
a very large sum for Willow Springs to access Mt Carnarvon with the lease costs
per year having tripled. The YFRWPA do very little to promote SkyTrek while the
owners of Willow Springs have poured a lot of effort into it. They also police
the access, (which the assoc doesn't as they don't have anybody on the ground
there, only going up there a couple of times a year), maintain the road and
basically manage the area and keep an eye on the wallabies. Ron
From last week - Caravan Covers
Ants in the camp
I have used flour around the tent or tarp, when I have had trouble with the little blighters; it seemed to have worked, much to the surprise of the folk on the tour. Alan
Stock
Routes
I am looking for famous old
stock routes in Aust, also old Cobb and co routes on maps so that I can follow
them where we can by 4x4. Any thoughts were to start? Max
Loo litter
I came across lots of dunny
paper in the Aussie bush in the past, and it really annoyed me. I always burn
toilet paper (carefully, of course) or carry it out and dispose of it in a
correct manner if I travel in areas where it is forbidden to light any open
flames. In Germany, you can buy a very simple and inexpensive camp toilet, made
of cardboard:
http://www.globetrotter.de/de/shop/detail.php?mod_nr=102107
If you travel the wilderness
of National Parks and State Parks in the United States, you are obliged to carry
such a camp toilet, and the rangers will check if you have one with you. If you
haven't and are "caught in the act", you will be confronted with a
very hefty fine. In my eyes, this sort of toilet would also make sense in
certain national parks in Oz (e.g. where there is a permanent fire ban and
toilet paper cannot be burned). The same company, Globetrotter, offer special,
easy-degradable toilet paper: I know that this sort of toilet paper is also sold
by companies specialising in boat accessories. There certainly are other vendors
for this sort of degradable toilet paper. Cheers from bl..dy boring
Dortmund/Germany, Juergen
·
Re: blaming the minority of females for decorating the
pristine bush and occasional carparks. I’m pretty sure the male species uses
‘Dunny Paper’ too, so don’t go just blaming the females. I’d rather call
those sorts of people ‘mindless idiots’. They don’t deserve a place in our
bush and if travellers come across ‘mindless idiots’ that are blatantly
leaving their ‘Dunny Paper’ and any rubbish for that matter scattered
carelessly in campgrounds or carparks then don’t get involved just take a few
sneaky pics, write down some details like dates, area and vehicle rego’s and
DOB THEM IN to the land managers of where ever you are. Prosecutions can happen
after the fact. It’s no good just complaining to your mates. Get the baddies
out of our bush! Alison – female species
·
The answer is to carry a kit consisting of: shovel,
matches or igniter, toilet paper. Dig a hole, use the hole, use the paper, burn
the paper- yes it does burn, bury the lot. David
G'Day David,
What happens on a total fire ban day? Jo
What you carry in you carry
out. So if a total fire ban, that is your option. Try hiking in the Alps in
Europe, many places make you carry it out, as do rafting operations on USA
rivers. On my tours in the desert regions, it is clear burying is not enough, it
must be burned or the dingoes dig it up. I see toilet paper everywhere. David
·
With reference to the recurring comments about
unsightly toilet paper in the bush, including last week's suggestion for
quickly-degradable 'camping paper', may I suggest a solution used by two-thirds
of the world's population, if not more? Water! Yes, a bottle of water and your
left hand (keep the right hand 'clean' for interaction with other people). It
might seem icky at first but you soon get used to it and it's far more hygienic
than rubbing with paper and not getting the nether regions entirely clean. My
former Dutch mother-in-law, who grew up in Indonesia and suffered through a
Japanese internment camp during WWII along with 300,000 other Dutch settlers,
swore by water and we made sure there was a water-filled Coke bottle in the
toilet whenever she came to visit. I've never warmed to the method when sitting
on a Western toilet, but squatting out in the bush, or on a toilet in Asia,
Africa or the Middle East, it's definitely the way to go. Rob
G'Day Rob,
Your comments have a certain amount of merit/logic/environmental friendliness.
My only concern is that I am left-handed, which leads me to wonder about things
I might do without thinking - like pick my nose… Jo
Hi Jo, I'm left-handed too (like most of the, ahem, truly talented people), and usually carry a pack of disinfectant hand wash when out bush where sink and soap may not be readily available. Apply after rinsing your hand with water and you can pick to your heart's content! Rob
Outback
Adventure - Mongolia and Russia
Part
one – getting there.
Recently
my wife and went to Mongolia and the eastern part of Siberia in our Discovery 3
(shipped over there). This is not really an Australian adventure, but I thought
some of your readers may be interested in the report. This report was also sent
to the Range Rover Club of Victoria, of which I am a member too. Peter
Adventure
in Mongolia and Russia, 11th September- 8th Oct 2011
Betty
& I were privileged to be invited to join a group of Land Rover enthusiasts
(two Land Rover Defenders and my Discovery) and their friends driving Toyota
Hilux and a hired Toyota Landcrusier) to tour Mongolia and Russia. Our original
plan was to ship our Four Wheel Drives to China and start our adventure there
and then onto Mongolia and Russia. However due to the stringent requirements by
the Chinese Customs for importing cars (even on a temporary basis), we had to
abandon the idea of touring China. Our
four cars were put into two 44 ft. containers bound for
We
flew to Beijing on 12 Sept and met up with the rest of the group (except the
father and daughter pair who were hiring the Landcruiser). We had dinner at the
Hong Kong Jockey Club complex. It was a very impressive building and the service
was excellent. The group had a very early breakfast and was transported to the
Beijing Railway station to catch the Trans-Siberian train bound for UB at
0730hrs. The train was the older style train and similar to our Indian Pacific.
It appeared that the train was operated by the Mongolian Gov’t and the train
staff did not speak English or Chinese. We
had a cabin with bunk beds and shared the bathroom with the passengers in the
adjoining cabin. Needless to say, it
created a bit of noise and inconvenience when other people were using the
facilities. The train journey lasted for about 30 hours.
The
train moved in a north-easterly direction and the scenery changed from
mountainous out of Beijing to flat steppe country as we travelled near the
Mongolia border. The train was
climbing to an elevation of about 1300m as we travelled north.
We
reached the Chinese border town of Erlian at 2037hrs.
All passengers were required to leave the train and waited at the
immigration hall for the train to change its wheels as
While
we were just about to go back to bed, the train stopped again at Zamin Uud, the
Mongolian border control town at 0025hrs. The officers collected our passports
again and we did not receive them back till 0140hrs. We went back to sleep
undisturbed till the morning and we arrived UB at 13:30 hrs. From what I could
see, this part of Mongolia was very flat and very suited for grazing and no
spectacular scenery seen.
The
group was met at the railway station by our local guide who took us to our hotel
and later took us to the depot to pick up our cars. It was good to see our cars
again and we had no trouble starting them. We spent the next day sorting our
cars out and buying provisions etc. before our trip.
Next week. Mongolia.
Friday
Funnies
My
name is Marie, and I was sitting in the waiting room for my first appointment
with a new dentist. I noticed his diploma on the wall, which bore his full name.
Suddenly, I remembered a tall, handsome, dark-haired boy with the same name had
been in my high school class some 30-odd years ago. Could he be the same guy
that I had a secret crush on, way back then? Upon seeing him, however, I quickly
discarded any such thought. This balding, gray-haired man with the deeply lined
face was way too old to have been my classmate. After he examined my teeth, I
asked him if he had attended Morgan Park High School.
'Yes.
Yes, I did.' he gleamed with pride.
'When
did you graduate?' I asked.
He
answered, 'in 1975. Why do you ask?'
'You
were in my class!’ I exclaimed.
He
looked at me closely. Then, that ugly, old, balding, wrinkled faced, fat-as**d,
grey-haired, decrepit s.o.a.b. asked, "What did you teach?"
"Doctor,
I think I am a moth."
"That's
unusual, but I think you need a psychiatrist rather than a GP. There's one a
little further along the street."
"I
know. I was on my way there but your light was on."
A
customer called our service line demanding help with her TV set, which wouldn't
come on. "I'm sorry, but we can't send a technician out today due to the
blizzard," I told her.
Unsatisfied,
she barked, "I need my TV fixed today! What else am I supposed to do while
the power is out?!"
In
a small army camp town, a soldier was having trouble cashing a cheque. The
cashier was sympathetic but firm: "You will have to have ID from some of
your friends from the camp."
At
this the soldier answered frantically "I don't have any friends - I’m the
bugler."
Two
snakes were crawling along when one snake asked the other, "Are we
poisonous snakes?"
The
other replied, "You're darn right we're poisonous! We're rattlesnakes. Why
do you ask?"
To
which the first replied, "Because I just bit my tongue."
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